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Then there's the fact that Africa isn't one homogenous country and culture, it's a group of different countries with their own individual things, but cultural appropriation between those countries doesn't appear to be considered an issue. The only way I could think of explaining my outrage was this (and I may be taking liberties with someone elses oppressed culture here, which would add another layer of irony to it all, wouldnt it? Ive one who was raised by opossums, before he was adopted. The collective contained Opal an embryonic version ofMazzy Star whose trilogy of 90s albums are upon the decades very finest and all-female jangle pop group The Bangs, whose name was a nod to The Byrds and The Beatles.**. . No? In which case you can tooootally just say "lighten up guys, I was just showing my appreciation for the culture.". It's an incredibly important part of Buddhism to be present and intentional with your thoughts and actions. The video is pretty amazing. You shouldnt not want to know that.". What shall we do without hot chocolate, which bears no resemblance to Mayan xocolatl? I went to a restaurant in New Caledonia with a German friend once and ordered pizza. Imagine that feeling a deep sense of entitlement about his own hair and body! Bagels have a long history of use by Christians. This is the most intellectually dishonest garbage Ive ever read. And what about black people, who simply wear the dreadlocks because they think they look cool, with no knowledge of their history or symbolism? Bagels are an Eastern European Jewish food, and combining them with cream cheese and lox, while a later invention, is clearly a Jewish comestible as well. Are you really that clueless that you dont see that this piece is satirical, as is clearly stated in the tag at the bottom? For example, the dominant white colonialists cared little about the well-being of the people whose home they occupied, yet were intrigued by certain aspects of the minorities over whom they ruled, often adopting these cultural characteristics against the will of the minorities and used them to their liking. Did you not see the satire label at the bottom? Which brings me to a question: an earlier post mentioned a Chinese eating cholla bread; can a member of one oppressed group eat the foods of another oppressed group freely without committing Cu.Ap.? Instead, the old days of white colonialism were romanticized and portrayed as an acceptable, even normalized part of history. I thought A) We were a Global community who were expected not only to be tolerant of each others differences, but to embrace them, experience them and make them part of the global community that we loveand B)The Melting Pot that is the United States where we all come together as onenot Jewish, French, German, Iranian, Chinese or Russianbut American with vastly different backgrounds that we share. (Left to right) JK Rowling, Coldplay, Minstrels, a sombrero hat, Lionel Shriver. I may never be able to look any fermented comestible in the eye again. Prince records three-disc albums bereft of editing in his downtime between projects. But isnt it interesting how a thing can be so ridiculous that it becomes barely distinguishable from a parody? Ill be happy to call you a shegetz instead. Felixs grandfather, Moses Mendelssohn, was the most famous Jewish man in Germany he came out of the shtetl, studied philosophy and languages, and became a famous Enlightenment Jewish thinker (and the model for Lessings Philo-Semitic play Nathan the Wise). I though Mike had caught the boat and launched his own skiff. King Jan had just saved the people of Austria from an onslaught of Turkish invaders. Its distressingthat this rampant borrowing of foods, clothing, hairstyles, and behaviors from their proper cultures isnt merelydone, but done without acknowledging the oppression that historically weighed on the offended groups. ), Ill be good and do without lox. You will NOT eat that Mexican food. It has religious significance, deep, and complex, and what they were making only looks like challah, its not even an authentic recipe. (LogOut/ In no expert on keeping kosher, but I believe for a food item to be kosher, all ingredients need to be kosher. Being offended because people share ideas is profoundly stupid. The Reuben is not a Jewish food. And if I take offense when humans borrow the ideas of other humans for their own purposes then Im an offended idiot. Bagel and dreadlocks. http://www.marthastewart.com/928863/emeril-rolls-bagels, Emeril gets a pass, due to the sheer number of Bar Mitzvah brunches he did when he was head chef at Commanders Palace in New Orleans. The same is not true for things like dreadlocks and ethnic clothing. But just think of it as grits made outta cod.). Prince records entire albums in a falsetto under a female nom de plume. Reminds me of a high school biology class where the teacher said something that sounded like everything is made up of cells and I start riffing about pen-cells and window-cells. In that crazy, sepia-stained year, expert digger Howard Carter discovered a little historical artifact known as KV62 or King Tutankhamens jewel-crammed tomb of mysterious golden awesomeness, if you want to get technical. Real bagels with chewy crusts. Wasnt there something about a Y chromosome identifier of cohanim, too? You dont know your history. No respect for redneck culture. We are at a unique time in the history of our species. And to have these supposed bagels get ever larger until the hole is filled in. Andletus not come with any patronizing nonsense about Jews not being oppressed, regardless of your take on Israel. People have mentioned various other Jewish foods that Ive never heard of and have no idea what they are. Our editorial content is not influenced by any commissions we receive. (Though if I had to kill the food myself Id probably become vegetarian very rapidly). Seems to me theres some stereotyping going on. Thank you for the link. Several users accused her of cultural appropriation as she paired the western grey outfit with traditional . Hah! Taylor Swift and her "Wildest Dreams" video hits both cultural appropriation and white colonialism in a single shot. I was wondering. Legend has it that it was brought there while the Chinese (supposed inventors of the stuff though I think I have a Persian cook book that claims pasta was from that end of the silk road) were being oppressed by the Mongols. Did you see satire in one of the tags at the bottom? 90s News: Coolio fought Boyz II Men, M2M update, Hootie and the whatnow? When I was growing up, bagels were a common food in our (gentile) home. When I was growing up in New York City in the 1950s, there was only one kind of bagel: plain. I think dreadlocks are a good example; theres some history of oppression connected with them, and it would do the people of the oppressing culture (even if they arent racist) good to respect that. Ive got to say; General Relativity, Psychoanalysis and the Italian Symphony are all wonderful, but you jews really outdid yourselves when you invented the Reuben Sandwich! The idea that cultural appropriation is primarily a form of erasure - a kind of emotional violence in which people are rendered invisible - came along later. Surely a much worse example of cultural appropriation is Christians using the Hebrew scriptures as their own, giving them a new name implying they are somewhat outdated, and then claiming Jews have misinterpreted their own religion? Now listen up all you folks who are distressed by tough white guys who wear dreadlocks. Gevalt! Cultural appropriation is using or taking something from another culture without giving proper recognition or respect to that culture. The headmaster was Black and I had more support from White folks ! Whites invented dreadlocks (long ago). The Bangles international follow up single Walk Like An Egyptian fared exactly one better, hitting #1 in America and Australia, with Prince obviously deciding not to block their chances this time. If we continue to allow cultural appropriation to appear on major media outlets, we'll only teach the upcoming generation that people of color don't deserve to be treated like human beings. Its dearly loved down under. But I didnt tell them not to eat it. Where I live (rural Michigan)you cant even find a decent bagel anywhere, so my husband and I have learned to make our own bagels. By. Cultural appropriation in this fashion is holding back our entire society from moving forward, where we should be far, far away from our colonial past and instead more concerned with a future that values equality. I would think if you used the water to wash down your pig then it couldnt be used to make bagels. We may have lost bagels, but I draw the line at stuffed derma. Apparently too much bagel prevented some readers from noticing a tongue poking a cheek. E.g., there was a study published last year showing that people sniff their hands after handshakes. Did you notice the Chinese-looking bagel baker at the very start of the video?! Now days they can be prepared any number of ways with all sorts of flavors (http://www.jewocity.com/blog/top-10-bagel-flavors-thursday%E2%80%99s-top-ten-list/503) but most Jews in the United States keep it simple and smother the toasted bagel with lox (smoked salmon) and cream cheese.. Ticket them 500$ and 3 days in jail or something? I do get them at a very, very low sale price after Pesach, though . The operative word, there, of course, is If.. Those who know Pittsburgh may know why that might have been odd. http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/questions/question/2687/ My wife will cure you. He eats just like they do, too, which is very strange for a cat. How about: Gentitlement? (LogOut/ How would that even work? The image of yeasty feet will haunt me for some time. I suppose this would rule out corn (maize), potatoes, tomatoes, chilies and eggplant (aubergine), or does cultural appropriation only refer to the preparation of food? Culture is just a bunch of ideas that are shared by a bunch of people. . When youre testing a new food source in the bush, the first thing you do is touch it to see if your skin shows any adverse reactions. The dreadlocks were supposed to frighten the spies who then went back to their own troops spreading the word about how tough the Spartans were and unlikely it was that they could be defeated. All the other commenters seem to have understood the absurdity and taken the post in the spirit in which it was intended. Your last name shows which half is which. While snacking, too. My Nana could make food really last. Now, get over yourself. Really? gagh Sop rur neH tlhIngan! I'm not going to knock mindfulness. . Fortunately, I have some Scottish ancestors, so I cant be accused of culturally appropriating the wee dram of fine Isle of Islay libation Im about to sip after reading all this! Yeah, I actually tried lutefisk at the Nordic Festival in Minot, ND. Some will understand, some wont, some will pretend not to understand. Heres a current instance of expropriation: the caricature of a male native American brave used by the Cleveland Indians as the teams emblem. Oy, yet another rude person who didnt seem to realize that the piece was satirical. A Jewish male wearing dreadlocks was chewed out (and semi-assaulted) by a black woman. 2nd ave deli is a meat restaurant and serves fake dairy cream cheese. This only paves the way for more disrupt in our country and more violence towards one another. *** He wrote the song under the nom de plume Christopher, as if to prove its the sheer quality of his art (and the universality of Sunday being an I-dont-have-to-run-day) that propelled the song up the charts. They deserve a potch on the tuchus! Oh, I thought you were talking about another 5th symphony Beethovens. The point seems to be about the appropriators accompanying their appropriations with proper knowledge, so you dont have to feel embarrassed at all, if you recognize the historical significance of what you are doing. My former employers in a High School warned me for my non-professional appearance, not for the lack of suit and tie but for my long hair dreadlocks, while there was no issue for my former White colleagues with long hair. The necessary precursor to civil rights it seems to me is a minority of the majority recognizing, admiring, and adopting a good trick the Others have. My apologies. Every other person in the media looks like you, and every other commercial is geared towards your tastes, needs, and wants. Not like that crap Panera markets as bagels. sports teams with offensive and inappropriate names. Cultural appropriation refers to the use of objects or elements of a non-dominant culture in a way that reinforces stereotypes or contributes to oppression and doesn't respect their original meaning or give credit to their source. Ill be brief, but I needto establish threethings: Jews are an oppressed minority, bagels are a Jewish food, andborrowing foodstuffs fromJews is clearly cultural appropriation. That something being, we now know, Farcebook. But here's the real kicker: Katy Perry's "kimono" was partly a Chinese Cheongsam dress. Sure, there are plenty of excuses you can use as an alibi for your insensitivityone of the other perks of being whitebut there are certain times when you should leave that sense of entitlement at the door. Umm, no, at least not for the sort of ethical reasons that most people are vegetarian. But, I do not doubt that this inanity will eventually pass. I think that pretzels as we know them have a similar history. His brain is still on 1 April. wearing a bindi as a trend. A series of cases where Westerners (mainly white people) have been accused of stealing other people's cultures, leads Adam Gopnik to wonder what wrong has been committed. Oh heavens, what shall this world come to if we cannot appropriate the foods of other cultures? Still, it was pretty clear that this post was making fun of the silly excesses of the new mantra. All of us feel the consequences, even if you don't realize it. There is, after all, the 5th symphony. And, of course, youre rude, which is forbidden in the Roolz (something else you apparently didnt read). We have to stop guarding cultures and subcultures in efforts to preserve . The misuse of Leonard Cohens lyrics is an act of cultural EXPROPRIATION. Of course such a massive historical discovery sparked absolute Pharaoh Fever amongst bored American youngsters and a flood of pop songs such as Sophie Tuckers Old King Tut hit the wireless, businesses jumped on the bandwagon, rebranding anything from insurance firms to racehorses to cigars after Ancient Egypt (luckily times have changed) even the President of the United States named his dog King Tut. naming teams after animals, plants, or noncultural concepts. Home made bagels are a thing of god. He wrote Manic Monday for them, and even though it was a lazy rewrite of his hit 1999 (the verses are identical) it was also a Prince song and therefore it went to #2, being held off the number one position by his own Kiss, because. . Cluelessly literal here. I assume the Spartans were white guys (maybe sun tanned). And, would those be Black Enochians (with a sense of rhythm) or White Enochians (lacking same)? That didnt happen until the 13th or 14th Century. Say, anyone out there know anything more, along these lines? In Kubla Khan, Coleridge clearly implies that pants are not limited to Caucasians: And from this chasm with ceaseless turmoil seething For me, So talking about cultural appropriation in the first place is meaningless. Viva la doughnut! I always wonder if that was the same family as the one whose wife Flaubert fell for in Lducation sentimentale. It was generations old, at least, according to both men, so I expect, when such people were told they were mensches, they pretended to know nothing, then went home and told their families what they knew, which was all based on the lies theyd been taught, growing up. Thats close enough, though, for golf, right? The back-story, if youll pardon the pun, really adds flavor to the whole bagel thing. As long as no one claims that eating Einstein Bros. bagels makes them Jewish (like those folks who believe that wearing beads and feathers puts them in touch with Native Americans), I really dont see the problem. This can include . This post was actually meant to poke fun at weak and silly claims of cultural appropriation. It was made clear that Katy Perry and her crew knew next to nothing about the history of geishas, and instead chose to cash in on Asian stereotypes that probably came from a 1950s postcard. BTW, does anyone know where to get a good bagel or pastrami sandwich in Tallahassee, FL? Ah, chocolate babka. 1. Off to my Heeb-free country club now. Outside of some London districts and a few other urban enclaves, Jews are just not very visible here in the UK, and Jewish culture is far less familiar to us than it is to the inhabitants of New York or Chicago. Maybe they would be offended in return. Well, its a good thing the salmon (lox) on the bagel is smoked, otherwise the Japanese would consider it an appropriation of sashimi. Jews have made it a standard to eat Chinese food on Christmas should all Christians and Chinese be offended? Can I still eat that from my local Jewish deli? Are you saying the Aztecs culturally appropriated tomatoes from the indigenous South Americans? Im glad you claim yours. Does that mean that my family (of Swedish descent) is stuck with pickled herring, hard tack, sour milk, and unspiced brown beans? Watch on. It never occurred to me to look at the tags, and all the serious stuff PCC(E) posts are so well grounded, I didnt think Its a problem I need to address. Project much? Most countries have tales of genocide and tragedy. He says that . Still, what most people think of today as cultural appropriation is the opposite: a member of the dominant culture an insider taking from a culture that has historically been and is still . *** List of why Prince rules, plundered from a review I wrote for his Sydney show a few years ago. So Im starting a charityits called fripplefree the nippleHopefully nobody dies of culturally appropriated nudity.. You should have explained to them that a mensch is the sort of person whod go out of his way to do a mitzvah. Colleen Murphy. Lots of people fail to account for one essential ingredient to the recipe for cultural appropriation: an oppressive power dynamic between two different groups. There are grey areas, even with Jewish food. What about matzo ball soup? I should probably clarify I did not intend to imply that *all* newbies were clueless! Well, I must admit to siding with those who disapprove of white people wearing dreadlocks but only because I find dreadlocked hair (on anyone) unkempt, dirty-looking and deeply unattractive. Yours is a good one, though. , As the black actress Amandla Stenberg says, appropriation occurs when the appropriator is not aware of the deep significance of the culture that they are partaking in. No problem. Im sorry, but Jews had ~4,000 years to figure out that cinnamon and sugar actually made that tasteless hunk of boiled bread edible and the fact that they didnt negates any claim that they have to the sole right of the bagel. YOUR problem is that youre on a high horse but too dense to know that my article was satirical. And my Jewish descent is Sephardic.). Its also great for people with sensitivity to the high tannin content in other red wines. I think that you mean anyone not Persian or from the Central Asian Steppes may not appropriate pants. Into the bits I stuck in my mouth. His 5th symphony is nicknamed the Reformation because he based the last movement on the hymn Ein Feste Burg (A Mighty Fortress), whose text and tune are both by Luther himself. An imbalance of power between the appropriator and the appropriated is a critical condition of the concept. Different Mendelssohns, I think. Tell a Jewish boy that he can date (and do more) with a nonJewish girl, but that he must marry a (virgin) Jewish girl, and this is what happens. Your culture will be assimilated. When we hear retorts about the offensiveness of cultural appropriation, people will often say they're simply "appreciating the culture". ". Im of Jewish descent, but I look German (the other side of the family.) But think of the sacrifices they had to make! Why hasnt anyone appropriated the Australian Essexboiz are people too! But when a Black person gets discriminated against, not getting a job, housing because of your dreadlocks while White folks who borrowed the hairstyles are seen as coolIt is comparing someone who burns a book and a authority burning a library. It looked like the one in the picture, with salmon and cream cheese. Now, I dont claim to be a historian, nor a scientist, but it is clear that the Sand Dance stirs up an ancient curse carried in the very souls of ancient Egyptians, because not unlike the controversial Cleopatras Nightmare some decades earlier Bangles Walk Like An Egyptian has raised ire over the years, being banned by two major international broadcasters the BBC and Clear Channel, which controls over 1,200 radio stations worldwide during two international conflicts (in my day we called them wars). In anarticle in the Independent on the offense commited by white people who wear dreadlocks, authorWedaeli Chibelushi notes that the real problem is not just cultural theft, but ignorance of the oppression experienced by the co-opted group: As the black actress Amandla Stenberg says, appropriation occurs when the appropriator is not aware of the deep significance of the culture that they are partaking in. It happens when people from a dominant culture (e.g., White people) exploit artifacts . Before I largely gave up on coldcuts, I used to also buy the two together when I was a student at CMU I lived in Squirrel Hill. People eating bagels does not oppress me. You can just blow it off, or you can have some empathy for the issues a particular cultural artifact has within the culture that spawned it. PCC, you triggered me with a photo of that lovely bagel.

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