phil collins chester thompson falling out

So they took some time off. So many songs, so many albums, so many concerts. Chester has a great attitude. -Drummers who are lead singers "better should stay behind the drum kit and not to sing". He didnt know all the tunes, but obviously he was pretty familiar with the whole prog-rock thing. Heres the crazy thing, man. It was pretty profitable. Come the day of the show, Peter was wherever he was at the moment, which wasnt where he said hed be the day before. Hed mentioned that theyd been through a few drummers that year. Nothing against Phil's son, I'm sure he's good, but why hasn't anyone said anything about Chester? [Laughs] He figured it out pretty quickly. But he just enjoyed being around us since we were so lively and fun. What did you study? We learned how to deal with it. . Beans and Corn Bread was probably my favorite Louis Jordan tune. I have no memory of that whatsoever. There were all these conversations going back and forth that Id try to track. Frank was playing guitar. At one point, he toured with us. Not too many of them sing even backing vocals, not too many of them are composers, not too many of them become famous as soloists, not too many of them are very good lead singers. They sent over some cassettes. I think try get hold of the album. But Phil being Phil, he detailed every single fill, every single detail of every single song. It started with some frat parties. Drummers are kept in the background because DRUMS CAN'T MOVE AROUND THE SCENARIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He spent 30 years in Genesis as a touring drummer, but he had a falling out with Phil Collins in 2010 and they haven't spoken since, "Culturally, we were on opposite sides of the world," says Chester Thompson of touring with Genesis. Suddenly, Im there with no income. I cant be gone that much at this point. Thats when Ricky [Lawson] wound up doing [the Phil solo tours of the mid-Nineties]. Phil was not sure family-wise and he hasnt had the easiest of times there. He had seen what turned out to be my last Weather Report concert, but he was very familiar with the Zappa stuff. Prog Rock is melodic and can be romantic, there's a difference between romantic and cheesy, most Phil Collins songs are cheesy. Turns out they had hired Jaco. Did they audition you? Phil Collins had to hire Chester Thompson and Bill Bruford. At least 50% of the already mentioned are composers also, and yes there are few drummers who are lead singers, because they would need to hire another musician to replace them while singing. Mike, Tony and Peter seem to be working very well together composing and its hard for Phil and Stevein the beginning to contribute. Behind a login thing. He knows what he likes Well Steve was recording a couple of other albums and he was wealthy by that moment, his dream was always to make Genesis sound as he wanted to listen them. Even though [guitarist] Daryl [Stuermer] and I werent technically in [Genesis], we toured as the band. I played every weekend from eighth grade until I graduated high school. It had been intense the whole time. He was happy. How was it for you culturally? I think try get hold of the album. He might have some fives and sevens instead of triplets, things like that. I think it's best to keep this stuff to yourself, don't air grievances in public., especially not the press. [Laughs] Culturally, we were on opposite sides of the world. Id have to say, I dont think Jaco was too comfortable with that. They just edited in that other day of his recording. Phil Ehart: owner of the name "Kansas", who also worked as their manager sometimes, he is not one of the main composers in the band. Its not as bad as its made to be , Havent exchanged cards since 2019 ?? I was totally gasping for air. Exactly. But Im over it now. I dont know how to describe it, but it was based on holograph technology. They had some really nice material they were promoting at the time [from their album One]. That stood out more than anything. Yeah. I thougfh the consensus was that Collins was not the only reason, but just a small part of Genesis's evolving intoa pop band? The only person I didnt see was probably Otis Redding. My wife had her own career when we met. I was like, Yeah. I was leaving straight from San Francisco. He is an actor, known for The Who's Tommy, the Amazing Journey (1993), Genesis: Man on the Corner (1982) and Phil Collins: Sussudio (1985). You couldnt be less than what you were supposed to be. How did he know you? I just love the adventure of life. So I can understand he creates mixed emotions , the disappointment we all felt with the direction of music through the 80s but I think he has been turned intoa scapegoat for a much broader trend. Why? yet (see the forest thru the trees) don't miss the interesting and insightful drum life Chester has led. He got it. There was no getting around it. Phil Collins was always skittish about leaving the drum stool. But doing it was really fun. !-REACTION RisbyDaCreator 10K views 2. Carl Palmer: again great drummer but not a main composer in ELP or Asia. Right. But he still had that American stuff. Frank was doing time within time. Its very nice to get that stuff, but at the same time, because Ive moved on, its taking me back and forcing me to deal with it again. They kind of assumed that he would. You can tell he is play acting. I probably heard more Elvis than anything in the Fifties. Exactly. Did it surprise you that they called you back? When Phil called, the first thing he said was, Theres no audition. Avatar: Photo of Solar Eclipse, Mexico City, July 1991. Playing that stuff from the Seventies was full of charge. Chester Thompson: Schlagzeug; Leland Sklar: Bass; Brad Cole: Keyboards; Produktion. most great drummers won't ever do that, because they live for their drums. The very first live concert I saw was Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers. The guy was brilliant, amazing. Ive already played stuff for the guys. Ive said half-jokingly that with Frank, I learned how to play all the notes, all the subdivisions. It was a lot. Carmine Appice, Cozy Powell: composers as soloists, mainly. When Phil Collins moved from the drum kit to the front of the stage in 1976, Genesis hired former Yes drummer Bill Bruford to join them on tour. But the next thing I know, they started having meetings. This is before they had their own studio. Weve been healthy, fortunately. The 100 Greatest TV Shows of All Time. His work ethic was just phenomenal. Yes, please explain the secret to bypassing the RS paywall. Does Phil Collins seem a Christmas card kind of guy to you? None of the other members really knew how to communicate in a funny way with their audiences. Hed then go off to a studio and work on whatever he had in the can. Except the horrible version of Your Own Special Way (Already horrible) because Paul Carrack sounds as Elmer Fudd , the mediocre Bossa Nova version of I Know What I like and the hard to swallow Waiting Room Only, the rest of the album (8 more tracks) is outstanding. Phil and I locked way easier than Ralph Humphrey and I did. I wasnt enough of a diplomat to just say, Oh, everything is wonderful. The Genesis stuff was more musically challenging and interesting to me. Even though he played with Brand X, he was not comfortable with soloing. Who knows what thats going to look like at this point. The difference being I wasnt so much into the English drummers, like Keith Moon, and he was. He was into a lot of the American jazz drummers. I found Richard Mc'Phaill here, at that point and due to the 1973 in memorian, I thought McPhaill was dead, later I found an interview by him (2001) and new he was alive and healthybutonlytoday found he made backing vocals in Genesis Revisited. That is the reason he left the drums to Chester and Bruford. And they had great songs. It was really brilliant. None of the other members really knew how to communicate in a funny way with their audiences. And its fine. Yeah. There were pictures taken and all that. Phil Collins on lead vocals. And I have to say, as much as I always felt separate and apart from the whole thing, seeing everyone together was an amazing and surprising feeling. Absolutely. He's a good drummer. Im sure if you spent time with him one-on-one it would be different. As far as I know he doesn't have the health How has your Covid year gone? Oh, boy. It took me a while to get over it, but I really wish him well. Bill knew that world. It had been years. But they set up mics around the stage where he said he was going to be. Basically, I want to keep putting things out. Phil releases "My favourite Genesis tracks from the 70`s" - rerecorded with old friends. I cant scroll fast enough to the good parts! Bill Graham and I could just never agree on the money. We go in the studio with Jaco, and Alphonsos feel and Jacos feel are radically different. I love the Tokyo Tapes show you did with Steve Hackett and all the prog guys in 1996. I could not follow a single conversation. But not only did Thompson stick with Genesis all the way through their Turn It On Again reunion tour of 2007 Collins also brought him over to his solo career in 1981 and used him for nearly all of his tours between 1981 and 2010. The other guy called himself Sonship, Woody Theus. And Id been doing it long enough at that point that I didnt have any expectations beyond knowing, Im here to do what he did [on the records]. When we played together, it was like he was the guy and Im there as the backup, to support him. I think he was playing a very deep Pearl snare, and it was setup similarly to the live MAMA tour snare, the whole kit was just a smaller version. We all knew he was going to be a great player. It scared the pants off me. They were great writers. Who were some of your drumming heroes as a teenager? [Laughs]. The Cover Looks Like An portrait Onion. We had a theater like the Apollo. No. The vocalist is the frontman, he/she has to move around face the audience, etc and a drummer is normally attached to his kit. But after reading the (excellent) interview, I have to say I'm quite surprised at how Chester was treated by the guys through the years. The rhythm sections at several of the gigs had big bands. Later on he became tourmanager for Genesis. At the very beginning, did they make it clear that youd be playing on the tours but not the albums, because Phil does all his own drumming? 153K views, 2.9K likes, 787 loves, 221 comments, 2.6K shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Genesis Reunion 2020: Phil Collins and Chester Thompson Genesis The Last Domino Tour . Are you hoping to be back onstage soon? Phil Collins and Chester Thompson Interview for Drummer in 1977 during the period of Seconds Out One tour, he bumped it up by bringing in this guy, Jeff Simmons. All are renowned in the business, but some are less well known to the general public. Great drummer. Just to mention a few key members that played drums. I have mixed feelings about Phil Collins. ", Chester Thompson on His Years With Genesis, Frank Zappa, and Weather Report, Watch Billy Joel Play Los Angelenos For First Time in 42 Years, U2 Announce Sphere Las Vegas Dates. A Godly man a class act. IvanI think we have reached the end of our discussion wether Phil is nasty or not. This means nothing at all, it's almost a tradition. His guys werent fun, so he hung out in our tent the whole time before the show. They were all good friends to the point where they said, Lets do this. So the vibe was great. He put everything into it. But I was fortunate. Max Roach and Art Blakey were first. Unfortunately, it really took off, so I dont think it worked as a tax write-off. [Laughs] Its interesting, I probably absorbed more of their culture than they did anything I grew up with because I was really uncomfortable. Chester Thompson on His Years With Genesis, Frank Zappa, and Weather Report He spent 30 years in Genesis as a touring drummer, but he had a falling out with Phil Collins in 2010 and they haven't spoken since. Thanks for sharing. Were drums your first love as an instrument? We want to hear it. I remember doing an arena after doing stadiums and it felt like an intimate club. A great experience to see. Also, drum parts in Genesis are not very easy to play and sing at the same time on stage. Terry Bozio: good drummer but he didn`t compose anything for the band U.K. Was successful in the Missing Persons Pop band. Boy, we got in rehearsal and it was like oil and water. Phil and I, from the very first rehearsal when he sat down and we started jamming together, we just locked. . That was my first real, name person I worked with. And of course, there was another drummer there and it was an audition. How were the Phil solo tours? He told me what he had in mind. [Laughs] Umm I didnt really think it was going to be the end. In my mind, these guys were almost hippies compared to what I was used to. How was the 2007 Genesis tour? [Laughs] That was fun. 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All of the above. And then he added the drums and it was like, Forget about it. We were all in the car going to the first show in Japan. At the same time, it was a little weird investing that much time in something you were never going to be a part of. Really cold of Phil to not reach out after 10yrs. A little bit later he goes, Man, I think I broke my finger. We all went, Come on. How much did you know about his music before the audition? In 2017, Collins revealed that he was a type-2 diabetic, undergoing treatment with a hyperbaric chamber after the condition caused obsesses on his foot which became infected. I just knew that he was a radically different person than Id ever known. I didnt see it coming. Weve been swapping ideas back and forth, writing and tracking. Theyre such great singers. Thanks guys and gals for more than one million views and almost 6000 likes. I was playing with adults. During that particular run, there was none, ever. Has Phil talked to you at all in the past 10 years? I wasnt aware of any of that. Daryl and I came back. Everyone had gotten over themselves by then and it was just really fun from top to bottom. I never liked the idea of re-recording old favourites but Im getting a little bit intrested now. In San Francisco, they have a minimum on these shows. According to my mother, even before I can remember, she mentioned getting a toy drum and me standing on the front steps and playing as people listened. Why didnt it go well? the Amazon Associates Program via amazon.com. and (apart fromthe bluesalbum)he hasstayed on the same ground, progrelated and close to classical guitarmusic. Again, I think its fantastic that hes playing with his son. Long story short: Collins turned up in a bad mood for the 2010 "Going Back" tour and griped at Thompson because Thompson hadn't prepared the Motown drum parts in enough detail. Phil and I, from the very first rehearsal when he sat down and we started jamming together, we just locked, he said. Y'know, it's funny, but when I see the name Chester Thompson . For lack of a better word, they are really, really British. He was a different kind of guy, but what a nice, gentle kind of person. Hes passed away now, but we were in about 10 or 12 bands together growing up. Im really grateful and Im just excited to see what comes next. IMO, he is a good composer, a funny showman, a very good lead & backing singer, and one of the best drummers in Rock music. It must have been interesting to watch them evolve from And Then There Were Three to Duke to Abacab and see them embrace New Wave to some degree and change up their sound. It was the only way to work that stuff. I know my reaction to Hacketts "Genesis revisited" was- Hmm, I guess hes running out of money As I wrote, I find Hacketts soloalbums uneven but on the other handhis music is solid (apart from that GTR-thing, didnt like it!) We played together a lot in L.A. between Genesis tours and stuff. I just basically kept my mouth shut and my eyes open. They didnt find out until pretty late in the game that Bill wasnt going to do the next tour. Alan White studied a bit of piano, but he is mainly self-taught as a drummer. When my mom showed me that letter I wrote in fourth grade where I had outlined I hadnt done everything in that letter, but so much of it had already happened it kind of blew me away. It was amazing to be in the room while they were playing at full tilt and because . The guy's a pro, and he plays his ass off. You were still able to pack stadiums. His name was Birdlegs [James Youman]. ,

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